tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post8938164550526685538..comments2023-08-16T14:38:42.391+04:00Comments on Mistress of Art: Arabian ChroniclesTripleTeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04225826996922576411noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-14049091654215801382009-10-02T19:16:50.771+04:002009-10-02T19:16:50.771+04:00That depends on what you mean by deal with?
Rather...That depends on what you mean by deal with?<br />Rather, I believe discrimination is a fact we have to change.<br />Because discrimination IS the dark side and therefore it should be confronted. <br />Snooky's right... enduring this only means patience. Strength and bravery means going against the wave... not waiting for a miracle to happen. <br /><br />I just don't know how it's gonna work.TripleTeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04225826996922576411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-91794103673694235762009-10-02T00:45:43.460+04:002009-10-02T00:45:43.460+04:00Discrimination is fact that we have to deal with b...Discrimination is fact that we have to deal with bravely; to be in confrontation with our dark side seems to be opposing drive beyond some red lines , set up by the power of illusion and extreme absolutism. Our mind is the truth , it’s the pivotal point.Al-Bash https://www.blogger.com/profile/13675240319912357655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-41952657109170441532009-09-16T16:16:36.342+04:002009-09-16T16:16:36.342+04:00not abandon it... but by using my head i could gue...not abandon it... but by using my head i could guess perhaps which of these hadeeths are true and which are not. which match the quran teachings the most and which dont. doesn't that make sense?TripleTeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04225826996922576411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-43717177440922939262009-09-16T14:24:22.880+04:002009-09-16T14:24:22.880+04:00Does that mean abandoning them altogether?
Going ...Does that mean abandoning them altogether?<br /><br />Going by that logic, The Quran might have been edited. Heck, WWII might be fiction. All things history are known to us via تواتر. I hope you know what that means. It is the only reliable source for history. Which is ironic, because تواتر is not that reliable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-20073400431414335852009-09-16T13:56:35.539+04:002009-09-16T13:56:35.539+04:00It's not that. It's my doubt on which of t...It's not that. It's my doubt on which of these hadeeths are authentic. <br /><br />the fact that i dont believe a few things are true in islam is because I dont believe the hadeeths about it are true. yes quran told us to follow what the prophet said. but how do we know exactly what the prophet said? There are many who would try and twist his words and i believe that's what happened.<br />so it's very hard to follow hadeeths in this sense.<br />---TripleTeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04225826996922576411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-70842097055490378892009-09-16T00:02:51.578+04:002009-09-16T00:02:51.578+04:00Hey,
Sorry for the late reply...
Unless the woma...Hey,<br /><br />Sorry for the late reply...<br /><br />Unless the woman is absolutely dependent on her folks, she can stand up & not allow herself be beaten up to a pulp. There are many things for her to do to get even. I'm sure your imagination is big enough to think up a few options.<br /><br />When speaking about Islamic rules, one must take into consideration both the Quran & the Hadeeth. One cannot simply choose a portion & neglect the other. While it is true "the authentication of certain hadeeths" is questionable, those remain as you said, some "certain hadeeths," with their power level being always indicated along with them. The Quran itself orders Muslims to follow what the prophet teaches, so going by your logic, following the Hadeeth is in direct following of the Quran.<br /><br />Now, I have no problem with people drinking for example, but to try & justify it as islamically ok is what I'm against. Do whatever you want only without lying & convincing yourself first, and then others.<br /><br />Personal views in the way you describe are very limited in Islam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-73704569333991575982009-09-09T23:50:13.475+04:002009-09-09T23:50:13.475+04:00rofl... I read all replies in my blog... if I can ...rofl... I read all replies in my blog... if I can write a lot I can read a lot. *wipes her face* <br />I like many of your points snooky and I very much agree with the fact that women are allowing this for themselves by hardly doing anything. However, doing something is not as easy as you describe it. What's the worst that could happen to a woman if she doesn't cover? She'll be beaten and physically abused by the men in her family. Don't you think?<br /><br />when I speak for women, I do not speak for all... I only speak for those trying to break free and believe that such rules are wrong just as much as I do. I see very few of those. What can a few people do?<br /><br />as for my religious beliefs. I only speak of the Quran, not the Hadeeths. because the authentication of certain hadeeths could be up for discussions. I could only be sure of the holy book and therefore when I refer to Islam I refer to the Quran. Of course these opinions differ with different people. What I wrote here was my personal views regardless of whether one would think them right or wrong. That is of course up to the readers to draw their own conclusions. <br /><br />I appreciate your input on this however and I do believe your points valid. ThanksTripleTeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04225826996922576411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-14288171722920768892009-09-09T17:57:18.911+04:002009-09-09T17:57:18.911+04:00Sorry had to split the previous two posts in order...Sorry had to split the previous two posts in order to publish them due to word limits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-46909464310827179022009-09-09T17:55:36.991+04:002009-09-09T17:55:36.991+04:00You've painted a lovely picture and spoke poet...You've painted a lovely picture and spoke poetically of you'd love to see a phase of metamorphosis taking place. I mean the one that resembles caterpillars shedding their cocoons to soar as butterflies. That was beautiful and such a delight to read, but no one can voluntarily speak of a whole group of people. This might be due to my nature as a physicist and a mathematician, but one can only speak of people when they had personally conducted a survey that includes most of the group desired to understand. The word "most" means a sample of 51% or more, which as you can tell is not something very practical to conduct.<br /><br />Seeing strength in those who endure is something foreign to me. Those who endure and keep silent are the plain opposite of those with strength. They are however patient, which is also a form of strength. Before you call on to my oxymoron, let me make this clear. From what I understood, the strength-meaning you implied is the one related to bravery, courage and confidence. The one you literally explained is the one related to patience. I believe the strength of patience is extremely important, but only when there are no humanly possible alternatives. As long as there other ways to go, then sitting around and convincing one's self to endure is not really power... nor strength.<br /><br />Your last few paragraphs are somewhat special. That's because after all the opposite views I outlined just now, those last few lines are almost, not entirely, the same things I would respond with in regards to the topic. Maybe we can discuss the different ways people interpret Islam some time later, if (emphasize on "if" you're interested). I say it that way because I'm not sure whether you'd read this far. Now is when I should apologize for the long reply... but I won't! I've read your long post, too. So in your face. Besides, this was also an unorganized draft of thoughts similar to your original entry. so all good I believe. Ohhh I don't go by that much anymore, but you might know me as Snooky.<br /><br />Anyway, it was lovely reading your thoughts, so thanks for the opportunity. It was very well expressed and beautifully written (very poetic, too). It would great to read even more, if that's ok.<br /><br />Cheers,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13480620.post-47704326943653904852009-09-09T17:55:01.001+04:002009-09-09T17:55:01.001+04:00Indeed, most outstanding works of fiction are deri...Indeed, most outstanding works of fiction are derived from personal life circumstances. Although they are more exaggerated, the root elements are extracted normally from the author's personal life. Not only the plot & its advancements but also the characters (be it or be it not intentionally) are influenced from persons from the author's life. Foes, friends, betrayal, loyalty. All can be retraced to actual natures of people whom the writer has personally interacted with. I’m sure you’re familiar with Charles Lutwidge Dodgson’s Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland. I believe all the characters are based on people from his real life. The Queen of Hearts is someone whom he hated and considered an enemy, for example.<br /><br />It is true Arabs descend from a rich ancestry of different empires, each with it's own unique elements. I believe you implied women did not have much of a role as rulers in the Arab history. This is not the best perspective to use for contrasting, because in history, generally, men played a much larger rule. This is also the case in old European and Asian civilization. That being said, there are of course some female figures who stood out. They are not much spoken of, but there were also female rulers in the region you come from, who had exceeded many men. Balqis, The Queen of Sheba, for example, is one of the best examples of leadership to ever exist. She was, as you may know, the ruler of the region south of the Arabian Peninsula. That's were you come from, right?<br /><br />I can understand why women in the Middle East might feel oppressed. However, they are the ones allowing this oppression to take place. If a women, today, refuse to wear Abbaya for example, what's the worst that can happen? Granted, she might be viewed as an outcast or a source of shame, but how would that be worse than her present supposedly oppressed life. Both lives sound unpleasant, but in the end, it all boils down to personal psychology handling. Precisely how women you speak of, who convince themselves that, for example, being covered is the correct way to go (probable religious reasons), other women will simply convince themselves the opposite and believe it. Don't get me wrong, I, like you, am also of the opinion everyone should be up to their own opinions and choices. However, I only mean that generally, because authority is always needed to control the herd. That's another topic for another day, though.<br /><br />Going back to those women's psychology, I'd like to note that feminists convince themselves that something is wrong in the same way supposedly oppressed women convince themselves that they are so. The answer to which side is right is philosophical. I'm personally of the opinion of Nietzsche. Look more on his Beyond Good & Evil to understand if you're interested. Now, going back to religion, Islamic rules are really solid and concrete. I have no problem with those who refuse to wear the veil, but saying it's not breaking religious rules is just hypocrisy and baseless self-convincing. All should be inclined to their actions, but to screw around the bush is down right hypocrisy. I say that regardless of my personal beliefs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com